Frederic W. Hoare

Notes:

Source: 1925 Iowa State Census - Taylor, Harrison Co, Iowa (Surname: Hoar)

Postem from: Sylvia Smith Email: einsteinsmith(at)comcast.net
Date: Sat, May 3, 2008
Note:
Frederic W Hoare
Date of Death: 13 Jun 1967
Place of Death: Seattle

My grandmother was Kathryn Kirlin, Fred's aunt. I remember him from when I was a child. He lived with my grandmother and her sister Agnes, and we visited regularly. Fred had schizophenia and was never placed in an institution. He was a little strange, but I never considered him dangerous. He carried on conversations in an unknown language, rocked, and would suddenly laugh loudly, and when Father talked about an event in Fred's childhood, Fred would be very lucid and contribute to the conversation.

Here is a excerpt from my mother's notes on the Kirlin family:

"Her [Anna] son Fred was diagnosed as schizophrenic during his late teens. They always thought that his condition was brought on by a sunstroke. She kept him with her always. After james and Philip died she and Fred moved in with Margaret. Anna suffered a stroke that left her completely helpless mentally and physically and had to be fed through a tube. The other members of the family wanted to put her in a nursing home in Iowa, but Agnes refused and brought her to Seattle to live with her and Kathryn. She also brought Fred who was mentally incompetent. She set up a bed in the living room of Kathryn's and her apartment for Anna and cared for her night and day until she died in 1956. After that Agnes cared for Fred who slipped in and out of reality at regular intervals." Marie C. Smith

My mother was in Seattle with Aunt Agnes when they had to send Fred to the hospital right before he died of massive amount of cancer in his body. (He was diagnosed a week before his death.) Here is my mother's writing on the event:

"Vernon came and we went to see Fred in the Providence Hospital. We informed the hospital that Fred was without funds and that we could not pay for his care and that Agnes had left very little. The sisters of Providence quickly decided that he should be moved to Harborview as soon as possible. But he was so very sick that he died before they could move him. We sent both their bodies back to Missouri Valley where they were buried with the rest of the family." Marie C. Smith

A few other things I remember:

Fred had at some point sent in a medical correspondence
course, no doubt fraudulent, and he considered himself to be a doctor and therefore refused to go for medical help.

He smoked like a chimney. (When we cleaned the apartment, after Aunt Anges and he died, the nicotine was a thick yellow layer on the windows.)

There was some shop where my grandfather James Harry Smith used to go before he died in 1919. When Fred would walk by the shop he would always cross to the other side of the street mumbling something about Jim.

My father claimed that, when Fred succumbed to Schizophrenia around the age of 17, Fred was driving a team of horses on the Kirlin's Iowa farm. There was something about Fred driving the horses at a gallop. Probably not a good thing to do.

Notes:

Source: 1925 Iowa State Census - Taylor, Harrison Co, Iowa (Surname: Hoar)

Frederick married Anna H. Kirlin in Washington, USA. Anna (daughter of Michael Kirlin and Mary Donahue) was born in May 1885 in Iowa, USA. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Source: 1925 Iowa State Census - Taylor, Harrison Co, Iowa

Notes:

1880 United States Federal Census
Almota, Whitman County, Washington
Household Members:
William Hoare 31 -England -Laborer
Carrie (WALLIS) Hoare 23 -Wife Canada
(Infant) Hoare 2 mo -Son -WA Terr. ***
Ellen Wallis 50 -Mother-n-law Canada

William married Carrie Wallis about 1875. Carrie was born in Feb 1857 in Canada. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

1880 United States Federal Census
Almota, Whitman County, Washington
Household Members:
William Hoare 31 -England -Laborer
Carrie (WALLIS) Hoare 23 -Wife Canada
(Infant) Hoare 2 mo -Son -WA Terr. ***
Ellen Wallis 50 -Mother-n-law Canada

Notes:

Date: Thu May 3, 2007
To: MrsEdson(at)gmail.com
Subject: WorldConnect: Revised Post-em posted
Database: hoar_and_horr
Individual: I33476
Name: Researcher
Email: cswkresearcher(at)hotmail.com
Note:
This history of Taylor Township, Harrison Co., IA, includes a report of a Michael Kirlin's arrival in Iowa in 1866 http://www.rootsweb.com/~iaharris/twp/twptaylo.htm

According to this 1922 directory, a Michael and Mary Kirlin of Taylor Township had a total of 10 children: Susie, Katie, Phillip, Jim, Mamie, Anna, Mae, Margaret, Agnes & Willie http://www.rootsweb.com/~iaharris/1922/taylor.htm

I don't think those are minor children living at home in 1922, because according to the 1905 directory Maggie, Agnes and William (the last three on the 1922 list) were the only ones who were still minors in 1905. http://www.rootsweb.com/~iaharris/directories/1905_Residents_Taylor.htm

Note this may be the same Michael and Mary reported here (with daughter Kathryn)
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2770618&id=I556076079
Source: 1925 Iowa State Census - Taylor, Harrison Co, Iowa



Postem: Sep 22, 2008
From: cswkresearcher(at)hotmail.com
We have a great-great-great grandfather Philip Kirlin born 1794 in Ireland and died 1883 in County Derry Ireland. He was married in 1827 in County Derry Ireland to Catherine or Mary Gormley. She was born 1806 in County Derry Ireland.

Their children include:
(1) Patrick or Paddy born 1826 County Derry Ireland; died 1890 Missouri Valley Harrison Co IA
(2) MICHAEL born 1837; died 1923 -- married 9/1875 in Pennsylvania (?) to MARY DONAHUE (possibly born 1853)
(3) John born 2/26/1843; died 4/26 or 4/27/1926 Harlan Shelby IA -- married Helen or Ellen Bridget Gormley
(4) Philip born 1841 Claudy Co Derry Ireland; died 7/1891 Missouri Valley Harrison Co IA -- married 1875 in Claudy County Derry Ireland to Ann Kirlin (different Kirlin family) born 1838 Claudy Co. Derry Ireland; died 3/1932 IA
(5) Hannah born 1845 Claudy Co Derry Ireland -- married Francis McDevitt
Other possible children include
(6) Dennis (?) born 1847 in Claudy Co Derry Ireland
(7) Mike (?) born 1849 in Claudy Co Derry Ireland
(8) William (?) born 1851 Claudy Co Derry Ireland

Michael married Mary Donahue about 1875 in Pennsylvania, USA. Mary was born in Nov 1854 in Ireland; died in 1938 in Iowa, USA. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Source: 1925 Iowa State Census - Taylor, Harrison Co, Iowa

In the 1900 census she had had 10 children with 10 surviving.