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- Information on this family was kindly contributed by Audrey Franklin.
Audrey's email address: acab38(at)gmail.com
Chronicle Telegram, The (with photo)
Thursday, February 10, 1972 Elyria, Ohio
Any kid christened Freddie Hoar learns to fight early. Especially if the youngster is coming up out of Northampton Street in Roxbury, Mass. Freddie never topped 134 pounds carrying a pail of beer in both hands, but flattened some of the biggest name-droppers in the East. He's 76 now, still leading with a hard right, but he's tan and slick and alive and he sits in Tommy Maren's joint some nights spinning stories of old Boston. Maren dozes but his cigar is awake. The Hoar family never understood poverty because they never saw anything to compare it with. They had seven children and nine uncles sleeping crosswise in four bedrooms. Half were North of Ireland Protestants; the others were South Catholics. Nobody wanted to be first out of bed because someone had to go down to the railroad and steal the coal to start the fire. Daddy Hoar was a local politician who got elected on his name. Mother died in 1908, and the funeral director, a man named Dolan, spread the word that Old Man Hoar buried his wife on the cuff. The boys set fire to the funeral parlor. In World War I; Freddie was among the first to enlist because the government promised to feed him. He was in France with a machine-gun cornpany in the 26th Division. Fred spread the word After the war, he decided to become a vaudeville star, but Mr. Keith and Mr. Albee, among others, advised Fred to change his name to Hall. They did. He didn't. Today he's the only man I know with two Social Security cards.
He teamed up with a character with a chronic hole in the pants named Jack Hewitt. Freddie sang baritone; Hewitt played the piano and sang tenor. The act opened at Keith's in New Brunswick, N.J. They soft-shoed onstage to a crescendo of silence. ' Hewitt spun the piano stool and sat. The seat splintered and Freddie laughed and held his stomach. Hewitt got mad and decided to play the piano standing. He hit F natural so hard it flew up and smacked him in the mouth. The audience stood and whistled. They thought it was a great opening. When the act began to move, Hewitt and Hall sang "Daddy, Dear Old Daddy," "I'm Always
Chasing Rainbows," "When I Lost You" and "Smiles." They never killed an audience, or even wounded one. And yet, the only bad report the act received was from the manager of the Albee Theatre in Cleveland. He was John Royal, who would later become president of NBC. Freddie went back to Boston. He went into the paint and oil business with his father and ran the company up to $100,000. Daddy died when Freddie was out of town so he took a train home yelping: "I'm rich." As he got off the train, all the brothers and sisters were waiting for him and they said: "You haven't got a dime. We tore up the will and we share and share alike." Fred took a job singing at the Show Bar on Huntington Avenue and the joint was so empty the waiters practiced serving drinks to each other. There was a full house across the street in Johnny .Irish's Music Box and Hoar sent a $20 bill over and said: "Set 'em up for everybody."
The barflies gulped the drinks and demanded to know the name of their patron. Someone said, "A Hoar across the street," and they ran over to pay their respects. In those days, as Maren murmured through his cigar, "Everybody was under the influence." He sang for 15 years at the Show Bar and I don' t think Fred ever got more than three C's a week unless he was stealing. He worked with all kinds of singers and dancers and lived a life and a half. Maren asked him if he could sum up his theatrical life in a sentence. "Easy," said Freddie. "And it's true, too. With my kind of luck, when I had a chance to work with Jolson, it turned out to be Al's brother Harry."...
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(note he returned to Boston when his father died in 1931 and abandoned Gladys and 2 sons....[His sons[] carried her 2nd husband's surname)
United States, World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
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(I replied already)
Does anyone have information on especially the son named Frederick Joseph? I believe I found him in WWII registration in Waterbury, CT in 1942 but nothing else. I do not know if he married Gladys Young, who lived in NE, but they had two sons that were adopted by her second husband and carried his surname rather than that of Hoar. I would appreciate anything. Audrey Franklin
John Joseph Hoar b: June 1863 in Ireland d: February 1931 in Boston, Suffolk Cty, MA
..+Elizabeth McDermott b: February 1863 in MA m: 1887 in MA d: Bet. June 1910 - January 1920 in Boston, Suffolk Cty, MA
....... 2 Elizabeth Hoar b: March 1888
....... 2 John E. Hoar b: April 1890
....... 2 Jennett Hoar b: August 1891
....... 2 William F. Hoar b: February 1893
....... 2 Charles A. Hoar b: May 1894
....... 2 Frederick J. Hoar b: November 25, 1895 in Boston, Suffolk Cty, MA of Waterbury, New Haven Cty, CT in April 1942
........... +Gladys L. Young b: June 25, 1905 in Otoe Cty, NE m: Abt. 1928 of RFD1, Roca, NE in Dec 1966
................3 boy (born Hoar) b: April 23, 1929 in NE
................3 boy (born Hoar) b: February 10, 1931 in NE
....... 2 Celena Hoar b: September 1897 Boston, MA
Are there TWO Frederick Joseph Hoars born in Boston about the same time?????
There was a Fred J. Hoar in Lowell MA at 34 Sanders Drive in 1993-2002
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