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Elizabeth Hoar
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1. Elizabeth Hoar was born on 2 Feb 1701 in (daughter of Daniel Hoar and Mary Stratton).
2. Daniel Hoar was born about 1650 in Scituate, Plymouth Co, Massachusetts, USA (son of John Hoare and Alice (Unknown)); died on 8 Feb 1743 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA. Notes:
Marriage date:
http://books.google.com/books?id=888UAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA324&lpg=PA324&dq=%22Joseph+Hoar%22+%22mary+lee%22&source=bl&ots=cU80-Xm03t&sig=Bhza-wFaokcaOE4ZG8x74xp8Quo&hl=en&ei=rZ3MSty4MYmEswP4-OmUAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=snippet&q=mary%20lee%20daniel%20hoar&f=false
"Daniel Hoar and mary Lee both of Concord was married by ye Reverd John Whiting octor 16 : 1717 "Daniel married Mary Stratton on 16 Jul 1677 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA. Mary (daughter of Samuel Stratton, Jr. and Mary Frye) was born on 19 Jan 1656 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA; died on 5 Jan 1717 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA. [Group Sheet]
3. Mary Stratton was born on 19 Jan 1656 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA (daughter of Samuel Stratton, Jr. and Mary Frye); died on 5 Jan 1717 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA. Children:
- John Hoar, Sr. was born on 24 Oct 1678 in Watertown, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA; died on 1 Mar 1764 in Sudbury, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA.
- Lt. Daniel Hoar was born about 1680 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA; died on 8 Feb 1773 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA; was buried in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA (Old Hill Burying Ground).
- Capt. Leonard Hoar was born about 1682 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA; died in Apr 1771 in Brimfield, Hampden Co, Massachusetts, USA.
- Jonathan Hoar was born about 1682 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA; died on 26 Oct 1702 in Boston, Suffolk Co, Massachusetts, USA.
- Joseph Hoar was born about 1686 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA; died in 1707.
- Mary Hoar was born on 14 Mar 1689 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA; died on 10 Jun 1703.
- Samuel Hoar was born on 6 Apr 1691 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA.
- Deacon Benjamin Hoar was born on 11 Feb 1693 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA; died on 22 Mar 1775 in Littleton, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA; was buried in Littleton, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA (Old Burying Ground).
- Isaac Hoar was born on 1 May 1695 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA; died in in
. - David Hoar was born on 14 Nov 1698 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA.
- 1. Elizabeth Hoar was born on 2 Feb 1701 in
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Generation: 3
4. John Hoare was born about 1622 in , Gloucester (aka Gloucestershire), England of (son of Charles Hoare and Joanna Hincksman); died on 2 Apr 1704 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA. John married Alice (Unknown) about 1645 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA. Alice was born about 1624; died on 5 Jun 1696 in
. [Group Sheet] 5. Alice (Unknown) was born about 1624; died on 5 Jun 1696 in . Notes:
Concord Vital Records
"Alice Hoar ye wife of Mr Jno Hoar her husband dyed June ye 5th day 1696"
Bond, in Watertown Genealogies, gives her death date as June 5, 1697.
http://books.google.com/books?id=T0ZPAAAAMAAJ&q=Lisle+%22Graves+Family+Newsletter%22++2002&dq=Lisle+%22Graves+Family+Newsletter%22++2002&ei=TA7xR4WLC4vKiQG7k-CvDQ&pgis=1
The Graves Family Newsletter
Published 2002
Original from the University of Wisconsin - Madison
v.12-16 1987-1993
On page 105 it says: Ed. Note: John Hoar married Alice Sidney, daughter of Philip Sidney and Lady Alice (Lisle) Sidney.
http://genforum.genealogy.com/hobart/messages/482.html
John Hoar married Alice Sidney not Lisle
Posted by: Rinnah Burns Date: March 05, 2008
I was sent information from the Graves Family Newsletter of 2002 --pages 12-16.
In it the Editor's note states that John Hoar married Alice Sidney, daughter of Philip Sidney and Lady Alice (Maiden Name Unknown) Sidney.
I have found the Sidney Family of Robert Sidney and Barbara Gamage to be the closest line Alice Sidney who married John Hoar.
Robert and Barbara Gamage Sidney had 11 children.
One was Alice Sidney b. 1605--brother was Philip Sidney b. 1590 who is the father of Alice Sidney (Lady Lisle) who married John Hoar.
Their sister Philippa married John Hobart brother of Mary Elizabeth Hobart who married John Lisle.
Philip Sidney's brother Robert b. 1595 was the father of Algernon Sidney who was friends with Lady Alicia Beacomsawe Lisle--Algernon and Lady Alicia were beheaded on the same day.
Typhena Lisle married Leonard Hoar brother of John Hoar.
Robert Sidney b. 1563 Viscount Lisle
Barbara Gamage b.1565
Children were
Philippa Sidney b. 1599 married John Hobart, brother of Mary Elizabeth Hobart who married Lord John Lisle.
Robert Sidney b. Dec 1, 1595 son was Algernon Sidney who was friends with Lady Alicia Beacomsawe Lisle--Algernon and Lady Alicia were beheaded the same day.
Philip Sidney b. 1590--daughter Alice Sidney (Lady Lisle)--grandfather Robert was Viscount Lisle-married John Hoar
Mary Sidney b. 1586 married Sir Robert Wroth--she wrote poetry Very Famous
Elizabeth Sidney b. 1602
William Sidney b. 1585
Catherine Sidney b.1597 married Lewis Mansel
Barbara Sidney b. 1600 married 1. Thomas Smythe 2. Thomas Colepepper
Bridget Sidney b. 1604
Henry Sidney b.1587
Alice Sidney b. 1605
Sir Robert Sidney b.Nov 19, 1563 was given the Title of Viscount Lisle in 1605. I think this is where the confusion came in on the Lisle name. Alice daughter of Philip Sidney would be Lady Alice Sidney Lisle--but Lisle in this case is a Title not a surname.
Now it is understandable why F. Phelps Leach and his sister Elizabeth M. Leach Rixford made this mistake.
All these familes of Sidney, Hobart, Hoar, Lisle were all related either by marriage and Royal Blood cousins.
The Will of Alicia Lisle of Moyles Court
http://books.google.com/books?id=yWdTXEEhTSMC&pg=RA1-PA90&lpg=RA1-PA90&dq=%22alicia+lisle+of+moyles+court%22&source=web&ots=kTsal4SGxy&sig=AlWFDaKkjxNm02nc-hlPg3Ji6k8#v=onepage&q=%22alicia%20lisle%20of%20moyles%20court%22&f=false
http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.hoar/214/mb.ashx
We can thank F. Phelps Leach and his sister Elizabeth M. Leach Rixford for the myth that the wife of John Hoar was Alice Lisle. His work on the Hungerford family postulated that Alice was a [?Lisle]. His sister removed the brackets and question mark. No one challenged them for years. The evidence through the Lisle family do NOT show a dau named Alice that married John Hoar.
Children:
- Elizabeth Hoar was born about 1646 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA; died on 25 Sep 1687 in Lancaster, Worcester Co, Massachusetts, USA.
- Mary Hoar was born about 1648 in
; died on 5 Jun 1697 in . - 2. Daniel Hoar was born about 1650 in Scituate, Plymouth Co, Massachusetts, USA; died on 8 Feb 1743 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA.
6. Samuel Stratton, Jr. was born on 10 Feb 1626 in Podrington, Bedfordshire, England. Samuel married Mary Frye. Mary was born on 9 Jan 1632 in Weymouth, Norfolk Co, Massachusetts, USA. [Group Sheet]
7. Mary Frye was born on 9 Jan 1632 in Weymouth, Norfolk Co, Massachusetts, USA. Children:
- 3. Mary Stratton was born on 19 Jan 1656 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA; died on 5 Jan 1717 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA.
Generation: 4
8. Charles Hoare was born about 1588 in England (son of Charles Hoare and Margery (Unknown)); died in 1638 in , Gloucester (aka Gloucestershire), England of. Notes:
His will (original): (Ancestry.com - a subscription site)
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=CanturburyPrerogativeCourt&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-d&gsfn=charles&gsln=hoare&gsln_x=NS_NP&uidh=rf7&pcat=36&fh=11&h=877277&recoff=5+6+17+18&ml_rpos=12
His will transcribed:
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=cmILAAAAYAAJ&dq=%22Will+of+Charles+Hoare%22&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=xKNqTK9SP8&sig=xCiv-wsG-s0bUwUlpSxx2mNdfVI
http://www3.telus.net/roundtuit/hoar
http://books.google.com/books?id=hkwwKWvozdQC&pg=PA285&lpg=PA285&dq=%22Will+of+Charles+Hoare%22&source=web&ots=OTCDhnKt-t&sig=cMlO9-3Jvc7AGpKZZ9b2gKuTdOA&hl=en
http://www.lfthompson.com/more_charles_hoar_ll.htm
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Published - "August 26, 2011"Charles married Joanna Hincksman. Joanna was born about 1580 in England; died on 21 Dec 1661 in Braintree, Norfolk Co, Massachusetts, USA. [Group Sheet]
9. Joanna Hincksman was born about 1580 in England; died on 21 Dec 1661 in Braintree, Norfolk Co, Massachusetts, USA. Children:
- Thomas Hoare was born about 1612 in , Gloucester (aka Gloucestershire), England of.
- Charles Hoare was born about 1613 in , Gloucester (aka Gloucestershire), England of.
- Margery Hoare was born about 1614 in , Gloucester (aka Gloucestershire), England of; died on 10 Mar 1686 in
. - Daniel Hoare was born about 1617 in , Gloucester (aka Gloucestershire), England of.
- Ruth Hoare was born about 1619 in , Gloucester (aka Gloucestershire), England of; died in Jun 1628.
- 4. John Hoare was born about 1622 in , Gloucester (aka Gloucestershire), England of; died on 2 Apr 1704 in Concord, Middlesex Co, Massachusetts, USA.
- Joanna Hoare was born about 1624 in , Gloucester (aka Gloucestershire), England of; died on 16 May 1680 in Braintree, Norfolk Co, Massachusetts, USA.
- Rev. Leonard Hoare was born about 1630 in , Gloucester (aka Gloucestershire), England of; died on 28 Nov 1675 in Barnstable, Barnstable Co, Massachusetts, USA.